Garland
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Post by Garland on Jul 28, 2005 22:49:10 GMT -5
Yo, the fat dudes and hookers ALWAYS have the money..
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Post by infiniti on Jul 28, 2005 22:50:51 GMT -5
and u can always cheat to get your health up get a hooker and then kill her and get your money back...and she always has like an extra 500 in there
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Garland
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Post by Garland on Jul 28, 2005 22:55:36 GMT -5
load up fat dudes, hookers and other people in your car, an drive it int the ocean... always fun
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Acidpants220
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I'm an A Ninja. level 19 Shinobi in fact. Need Someone Wacked? Ask me about 2 for 1 tuesdays!
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Post by Acidpants220 on Aug 4, 2005 12:47:07 GMT -5
Personally I'm very glad that San Andreas has finally been stopped. not due to content...but due to it being a bad game. I was wondering how many times Rockstar was going to repackage the same game and name it something different. They've all been the same, just some things added. GTA was one of the reasons that Games are going downhill, because game makers are having to make games similer to GTA, repedative, bland, and involve pointless gameplay. and that doesn't even start about the lack of plot. I'm sorry, but GTA3 killed my love of Grand Theft Auto.
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Post by infiniti on Aug 4, 2005 12:59:30 GMT -5
Iv never played San Andreas yet, but iv played GTA 3 and Vice City. And I love the game whether there is a lack of plot or not. The fact that you can go around a city and do whatever the heck you want makes it fun.
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Post by derkan on Aug 4, 2005 17:08:09 GMT -5
Personally I'm very glad that San Andreas has finally been stopped. not due to content...but due to it being a bad game. I was wondering how many times Rockstar was going to repackage the same game and name it something different. They've all been the same, just some things added. GTA was one of the reasons that Games are going downhill, because game makers are having to make games similer to GTA, repedative, bland, and involve pointless gameplay. and that doesn't even start about the lack of plot. I'm sorry, but GTA3 killed my love of Grand Theft Auto. That made absolutely no sense. You say they put it back on the shelves with just a different title, but then say they add stuff to it. Make up your mind =\
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Post by cheesechick on Aug 4, 2005 19:22:29 GMT -5
Lack of plot? San Andreas had a ton of plot. Might not be the most interesting plot ever, but to say it isn't there is ignorant. And yeah, I agree with the above poster... it's not the same if they add stuff. That's the whole point. They're not changing the formula because the formula works -- it's what people want. Sandbox, mission-based gameplay with a ton of extra stuff to do. And personally, I think San Andreas changed a LOT. Adding in RPG elements, expanding the map tenfold, and finally giving the missions some much-needed variety made it ten times the game GTA3 was (though I don't think GTA3 was much of a game... more of an experiment).
And what do you mean by "stopped"? The game is still being sold. They just changed the rating. And don't you think that the REASON behind the rating-change should be more important than whether or not the game was good? After all, there are tons of bad games out there (and tons and tons of worse ones than the GTA series). And people pulling it off the shelves won't change that -- and if you truly think it's a bad game and shouldn't be sold... then this is a BAD move. Sales for the game have skyrocketed since this happened. All this news around it has raised interest in the game again.
Anyway I think that's a ridiculous standpoint. If things worked your way, there would be no freedom for game makers. Developers wouldn't be allowed to sell bad games. And sure, it would be cool if every game were great, but I believe in freedom more than anything... and saying the government should step in and say you can't sell this because it's bad is ridiculous. If people want to be stupid and buy bad games, let them. And if developers want to make clone after clone after clone they have the right to do so.
And, sure, there are bad games out there that have been enormous successes and spawned tons of knockoffs... but I honestly don't think bad games stop people from making good ones (and I don't think stop the sale of bad games would make more good ones come out -- I'm sure many developers get inspiration from looking around at all the crap... and seeing what NOT to do). Even though there's a ton of GTA & Halo ripoffs out there nowadays, I still manage to find fresh, creative games. And even if I couldn't... I wouldn't want the government stepping in and telling people what they can and can't sell. That's just not right.
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Acidpants220
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Post by Acidpants220 on Aug 12, 2005 20:40:06 GMT -5
Personally I'm very glad that San Andreas has finally been stopped. not due to content...but due to it being a bad game. I was wondering how many times Rockstar was going to repackage the same game and name it something different. They've all been the same, just some things added. GTA was one of the reasons that Games are going downhill, because game makers are having to make games similer to GTA, repedative, bland, and involve pointless gameplay. and that doesn't even start about the lack of plot. I'm sorry, but GTA3 killed my love of Grand Theft Auto. That made absolutely no sense. You say they put it back on the shelves with just a different title, but then say they add stuff to it. Make up your mind =\ A game can have stuff added to it and still be the same game. I'm talking about the game at the base. Overall the whole GTA system hasn't changed since GTA 3. Essencially they're the same game. What's the point of just putting out the same game multiple times, besides just to make money? If a game is made for the sheer point of making money then i don't think that it's worth it. Back in the day, Video games were made by people inorder to push the limits of what they had to work with, and they published said code in order to fund more projects that could push the envelope. These days the art of coding is being used for making money and not creating quality entertainment. GTA is the fundamental embodyment of the complete opisite of that ideal. I'm sorry, but i don't feel sorry for any one that is foolhardy enough to fall into the Abyss of the Rockstar universe. However am inclined to agree that the stuff that the goverment has done about M rated games and the like is Bull. It's a solution looking for a problem. my problem is with GTA, however i wish that it could have been dealt with without having to get the government involved......=/
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Post by cheesechick on Aug 12, 2005 23:32:35 GMT -5
That made absolutely no sense. You say they put it back on the shelves with just a different title, but then say they add stuff to it. Make up your mind =\ A game can have stuff added to it and still be the same game. I'm talking about the game at the base. Overall the whole GTA system hasn't changed since GTA 3. Essencially they're the same game. What's the point of just putting out the same game multiple times, besides just to make money? If a game is made for the sheer point of making money then i don't think that it's worth it. Back in the day, Video games were made by people inorder to push the limits of what they had to work with, and they published said code in order to fund more projects that could push the envelope. These days the art of coding is being used for making money and not creating quality entertainment. GTA is the fundamental embodyment of the complete opisite of that ideal. I'm sorry, but i don't feel sorry for any one that is foolhardy enough to fall into the Abyss of the Rockstar universe. However am inclined to agree that the stuff that the goverment has done about M rated games and the like is Bull. It's a solution looking for a problem. my problem is with GTA, however i wish that it could have been dealt with without having to get the government involved......=/ Just because something has the same core mechanics doesn't make it the same game. Yes, it's the same base idea -- because the base idea works. Innovation in gaming is happening all the time; but it's still fine to stick with a proven formula, and just fix the flaws. There isn't anything wrong (in most people's eyes, anyway) with the GTA3 formula. It just had some rough edges that are getting smoothed out with each new release... it's not like they took the game, put it in a new box, and added a new car and sold it. They took the game, went "here's what people like about it -- so this is what we'll keep and expand upon (the core gameplay) and here's what people don't like -- and what we'll remove or fix." Lots of game series do it that way, and usually, that's how they arrive at the peak of the series. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. At some point, of course, the series will start getting stale (as it did before GTA3) and I'm sure when that happens, Rockstar will do something to reinvent the series. If it helps any, think of San Andreas & Vice City as stand-alone expansions. They aren't called GTA4 for a reason. I think when GTA4 does come out, it will be because they've thought of something truly new & unique. Oh, and games were always a way of making money. Every entertainment form is. There are TONS of people out there who try to make unique and interesting games, but that doesn't mean they aren't trying to make money as well. It's not like every game before GTA3 was fresh and innovating and exciting either. Everything looks great in hindsight, and people like to look back on previous generations (the 16 bit era especially) and see only the good. If you actually look through all the games that came out back then... there was STILL a lot of derivative crap. Honestly, I think good-to-crap ratio is the same as it's always been in games (and in all forms of entertainment): TONS of crap, with a bunch of great stuff here and there. It's how it always was, and always will be. Sure, gaming has gone more mainstream, but that doesn't mean everything turned to crap... it just means more games are being made. The ratio and percentages of good stuff vs. bad stuff is still the same, just on a larger scale.
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Post by wowposter on Sept 3, 2008 14:01:59 GMT -5
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